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Mountaineerfan what the hell are you talking about? You growing stuff up on that mountain?

Now to the topic:
It pained me to see that cow being electrified and pushed by a fork lift. I realize many cows are killed daily for the meat industry. But to be a sick cow that can't even walk and be shocked, dragged, poked and push to the slaughter house is horrific! True the cow doesn't know they are going to their ultimate demise, but to force all that cruelty upon it before hand is wrong!!

That cow should have been put out of it's misery long before it got to the trailer.

Like I have stated I realize animals are killed daily for human consumption, and I love steak, pork chicken etc.. But at least be decent to the animal. If an animal is sick treat it. That or kill it on the spot. Don't torture it to the butcher's block!!

You should do your research and you would know what I'm talking about.I have posted numerous stories about the con artists known as The Humane Society of the United States.

"That cow should have been put out of it's misery long before it got to the trailer"

Did I say otherwise?Did I make any comments regarding the treatment of these animals?No,I did not.

The FDA/USDA clearly isn't doing its job. All the cattle in the US are very well documented. Those sick cattle should not have gotten off the fields, much less to a slaughterhouse.

But it also goes to show you how vulnerable our food supply is. They really never did give a satisfactory reason for the E. coli contaminated spinach, did they? Sabotaging vegetables, fruits and grains might be easier than sabotaging cattle. You can see if an animal looks ill because it's weak and unhealthy looking. But how can you tell if a bag of flour is contaminated? No one was able to see the contamination on that spinach, because the spinach didn't wither and look sickly.

Scary times, indeed.

Because the safety of the food supply is at the heart of this issue. Those sick cattle were going to the slaughterhouse to be used as food. The government agencies regulating food safety should be competent enough to have prevented those sick cattle from even getting to the slaughterhouse. As I wrote above, those cattle should have never left the field---if people were doing their jobs properly.

And it's not "paranoid" thinking---it's thinking beyond the superficial.

Mountaineerfan....the other report I saw years ago on Fox you must not have seen. I would google it but I really don't want to see it again. They were "DOGS"...being starved until their skin sagged and than tied or chained to a fence and their skin cut off while they suffered. The undercover reporter had to pretend to be in the fur trade or he would have been in danger himself. I remember he had suffered a break down after returning to the states. SO GROSS!

I think the greatest cruelty to those cattle was the negligence of their health. The people ultimately responsible for that is the USDA. Did those sick cattle need to be poked and prodded the way they were? Of course not, but then they shouldn't have been allowed to become that ill in the first place nor should their suffering been allowed to continue. They should have been separated from the herd and taken care of---either euthanized or medicated to regain their health. But they were not. They were allowed to deteriorate---that is cruelty beyond cruelty.

The USDA monitors the cattle in this country. Had they been truly monitoring them, those cattle would not have gotten out of the field in that condition. So if you're talking about the cruelty those cattle suffered, the USDA is more responsible for the long-term suffering of those sick cattle, than those workers with the sticks and hooks.

I watched the video clip and have read the posts here. We own a livestock farm and I am horrified by what I saw. This facility is a USDA inspected facility that purchases cows from "factory farms". These factory farms raise livestock in deplorable conditions and the whole food chain in agri-business is cruel and uncaring about livestock. The cows “sickness” started long before it hit the trailers for the slaughter houses.

The only concern corporate agriculture has is the bottom line. Making MONEY. They don't care about the health of these animals; the way they are born, raised, shipped or slaughtered. Their cruelty on factory farms starts at birth. Slaughter is a blessing to them.

You may not like what mountaineer fan is saying, but as long as the USDA, FDA and other government agencies continue to force the small farmer who cares about their livestock out of business, you will continue to see cruelty and abuses of animals from factory farms. The rise of disease and drug induced animal meat will continue to degrade the quality of food consumed in the US. This cruelty is based on corporate greed and it isn't pretty.

PETA and the HSUS are trying to get every animal out of the hands of humans. They are a strong, tough lobby and videos like this generally spur people on to contribute to their organizations instead of contacting state and federal bureaucrats to stop the abuse. They have more bills in the congress and senate to stop animal ownership.

As a livestock farmer I am livid over what I saw. I know it is done, but seeing it is beyond civilized thinking. Until

Being that ill---so ill that the cattle could not walk without a painful stimulus---is torture and cruelty. Those cattle didn't just wake up one morning and were emaciated and weak. Wasting diseases are chronic, not acute.

I'm not letting the workers off on this, but I'm not ignoring the responsibility of the USDA and other governing agencies. Had they been more competent, these animals would not have been allowed to endure the suffering of chronic illness.

As for your example, if the government did not bother to make certain those limits were enforced, then yes, they are to blame for people speeding. Just like the DC government is to blame for the deaths of those 4 sisters: Social Services didn't bother to follow up with that family, perhaps if they did, those 4 sisters would not have been subjected to the cruelty they were.

And I agree with you it IS sad I share the same planet with someone who is so focused on the trees that they are not aware of the forest.

The DC government is partly to blame. Whenever the government takes on a regulatory role, it must also enforce those regulations. So yes, the DC government is partly responsible for the deaths of those 4 girls. Granted the mother did the killings, but the government neglected their role as a welfare advocate for them---especially since they were notified on more than one occasion that the home environment was bad.

As for the USDA, they too are responsible. They regulate the meat industry in this country. They set up laws and regulations and so they are responsible for making sure those regulations and laws are followed. They dropped the ball.

It seems to me that you are more outraged at the workers prodding and poking at the sick cattle than at the pre-existing condition of those sick cattle. Again, those cattle weren't healthy one day and the next emaciated and so ill they could not even stand or move without extreme provocation. That took time and yes, the USDA cattle inspectors should have noticed those sickly cattle and intervened. The neglect and poor health are the greatest cruelty those cattle suffered. It's a shame you lack the empathy to realize that.

Cow , there is nothing you can say that will sway me to believe that it is an enforcement agencies fault because someone didn't follow the rules and didn't get caught. When you walk into a store you know stealing is against the law. Is it not your fault if you steal something just because you knew you couldn't get caught? Or is it the stores fault they weren't watching you every step of the way?

If you can say it's the stores fault, I pity you.