MyFox
 

mcshakespeare's Blog

by mcshakespeare

Last Post 538 days, 5 hours Ago


After reading someone’s comment on a blog yesterday, I decided that I was very interested in knowing what the majority thought on this particular issue.  We seem to live in a “it’s not my problem” world.  If we see an innocent victim getting attacked, we turn a blind eye and continue walking down the street.  In my opinion, not only is this morally wrong, it increases crime because criminals know that no one is going to try and stop them.  I realize that we can’t all be heroes.  I am 5’2”.  There is no way that I could stop a bunch of men from attacking someone on the street.  HOWEVER, there are other things I could do.  I could make a bunch of noise calling attention to the situation, or more importantly, I COULD CALL 911.  Just because it is a stranger doesn’t mean that I don’t have any social responsibility towards that person.  I believe that is one of the reasons there is so much violent crime; we have lost our compassion for other people.  I could only hope that someone would help me out in the same situation!

 

I’m starting to think that there should be some consequence to people who just sit and watch something happen from across the street without even trying to get help.  I realize this would be hard to do, but it is getting ridiculous.  Any thoughts? 

48 Comments |  Add a Comment

Member Comments Total Comments: 48
Page 1 of 3
1
Last
philliefan_00 read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 8:07 AM

"Getting" ridiculous? Bystander effect isn't a newly found behavior -- it's been documented since who knows when. While creating a legal obligation to assist during a crime is well-intended, how practical would it be to try to prosecute everyone who could have been a witness? Would you treat people paralyzed with fear the same as those who simply didn't care and those who actually were rooting for the perpetrator? What if the perpetrator were armed -- would that change the standard? How about if he warned everyone that he was armed, but it turned out later that he wasn't? And I could go on. There are too many questions to be answered and too many different situations to consider if some kind of "good Samaratin" law for crimes in progress were to be created that would be both fair and effective.

casm read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 10:43 AM

In the 1950's there was a famous case where a young woman was being attacked in new york the attack went on for over 30 minutes.. people had their windows open pulled the shades down or closed the window,, it was watched by many,, they even went on to make a movie about it with john Forseyth,,And the question was "how could so many people look watch and listen and not make a call or come forward..now think about 30 minutes is a long time..they teach you to scream Fire and not rape because no one would come forward..as a fire will effect every one ,, rape only effects the person..

Kelly-00 read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 11:11 AM

I always carry a knife on me. (If you live in DC and don't carry some sort of weapon, you are an idiot. Doesn't have to be a gun. Can be a knife, mace, whatever). After I saw this story I looked at my husband and told him that I would tell him to take the kids and run. And then I would have some fun with my knife. How would you feel if you were being attacked and nobody came to help you?

newsbuggy read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 11:31 AM

If your husband took the children and ran, I'm sorry dear but he is not worth being married to. A husband is supposed to protect his family at all costs. Really I don't think your knife would be any match to someone that was attacking you. Maybe I'm wrong, but if my husband ran and left me to fight off attackers, we would be in divorce court the next day.

Kelly-00 read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 11:39 AM

Yes well your husband doesn't go through war flashbacks does he newsbuggy? Thats right, neither one of you have been to war huh? So you don't know what its like. And I never said he would run with the kids anyway. I told him thats what I would tell him. Learn to read intead of jumping to conclusions. Talk about sexist! Why is it automatically assumed that the man is supposed to be the one on the attack? Believe it or not, women can stand up and take it to. And the point of the blog was not if someone was attacking you but if you were trying to help someone else (which by your statements, you would not. You would expect some man to do it) A knife going into the jerks back a couple of times will get him off the other person. Geez newsbuggy, use some common sense. And maybe learn to take some self defense classes. Your husband won't always be around

casm read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 11:40 AM

I would feel terrible and i am not condoning the "it's not my problem"I used to carry a knife.Now i try not to go into DC..I was at a club one time with my husband and we were going down a narrow staircase to leave.. the man behind him yelled we were not moving fast enough and spilled his drink down my husbands shirt.. i saw this as i looked back to see who was yelling as i was moving as fast as i could..with in seconds my husband grabbed him and it was one punch to the face.. when we got outside a 6'5" "carrot top" came after me and was jumping like a kangaroo with his dukes up.. i am 5'6" and a woman..the man who my husband hit pulled out a badge and said ok lets get dc's finest here.. as my husband was handling that.. "carrot top" was screaming at me your husband hit my friend.. he was still jumping up and down like a kangaroo..all i could do was yell ok barney fife..coming after a woman.. everyone just stood and watched.. this was all within seconds until my husband came over and said."just take your best shot at her and you'll be down.". I can remember seeing my husband in the distance as this man was being a nut..hoping some one would help..being outside a bar i knew no one would.."here you go Starrmann another negative dc cop story"but this story is mine..I guess this DC cop was out having a good night of fun getting drunk then got nasty..

newsbuggy read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 11:52 AM

Not saying woman can't protect themselves, however if you are with your husband and you say run and he runs, what does that say about him and his duty to protect his family??? I know, I know, you are such a bad *ss, you don't need anyone to protect you. And to answer your question, yes I would help someone in need.

Kelly-00 read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 12:41 PM

How is he not protecting his family? The attaker is not going against his family. He is going against another person. What does that say about you as a wife and mother that you would just expect your husband to run after someone else who wasn't even attacking your family?

newsbuggy read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 1:15 PM

"After I saw this story I looked at my husband and told him that I would tell him to take the kids and run. And then I would have some fun with my knife. How would you feel if you were being attacked and nobody came to help you?".
Those are your words Kelly-00, so obviously someone would be attacking you and your family. I can't imagine you having fun with a knife other than trying to protect yourself and your familiy...Geesh.... Stop trying to mix my words up here. You wrote it, miss lady not me! Again, your husband would be a coward if you took your kids and ran and left you to defend yourself.

casm read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 1:20 PM

so the wife is better at protecting than the husband.. well it can happen..I think it would be funny as she yells run and she stands to protect.. "wonder woman"can you hear the theme song..

Kelly-00 read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 1:25 PM

Newsbuggy why don't you read the blog? Not just my comment. I would have fun with my knife if an innocent senior citizen was getting attacked. Its obvious you don't feel the same. You would either do nothing or make your husband do it. Talk about a total sexist. And that would make you a coward. To run away and expect someone else to fight. Typical american nowadays. Expect others to do for you.

newsbuggy read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 1:34 PM

Well maybe I read into the blog wrong Kelly-00. I am not sexist at all dear. I made a mistake here... I admit that, I was actually talking about protecting my own family if it was to happen dear that's the way I read your blog. I wouldn't ask my husband to run and take the kids. Anyhow, I would assist someone that needed assistance... I am not sure about the whole knife thing, but I would do what I can to help out. I am non-violent, I don't carry weapons of any kind.

Kelly-00 read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 1:39 PM

Well what would you do then. If you wouldn't ask your husband to take the kids and run but you would help.. what? Would you let your kids watch? What kind of sense does that make? You say that you are not a sexest but every comment that you have made in this blog says otherwise. The husband is supposed to be the one that attacks. Sounds sexist to me

newsbuggy read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 1:50 PM

Whatever you say Kelly-00. I KNOW for sure it would be the other way around, my husband would tell ME to run and take the kids... He would never allow me to be put in a dangerous position like that. He would protect his family. I am married to a real man, that would do ANYHTING to protect his family. He would not allow his wife to pull out a knife like a tramp on the street and act like that not in his presence. Now if I were by myself and saw someone in need, I would call for help... I do carry my cellphone but not a knife. BTW, big bad Kelly-00, just tell me what do you think the perpetrator is going to be doing while you are pulling out your knife??? Just stand there and let you cut them??? Please you are on another planet if you think that's going to happen.

Starrman read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 2:04 PM

Kelly-00,
if he, the perp, were a male, I really hope the "fun with my knife", you are referring to, is gelding him, then I am with you 100 percent.
Prosecuting/holding people responsible that do not try to aid a victim, is out of the question, most people would do the right thing.

my2cent read my blog
May 16, 2007 | 2:25 PM

Not to say that it’s wrong or right but people don't want to get involved for whatever reason.

Personally if it was me being attacked, I want someone to get involved. So needless to say, I would get involved (e.g., call the police, assist the victim if possible etc) if someone is being endangered. I believe it's our civic duty.

MADsMom read my blog
May 16, 2007 | 2:33 PM

i have personally called 911 when i saw someone being robbed, when ive seen an accident, etc. i would not get involved with the altercation. in these days and times, i would suggest that you carry something with you NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO, its ridiculous to limit that to DC. crime is EVERYWHERE, and people who want to make it seem unique to DC are fooling themselves. as foolish as the ones you see on tv when something happens and all they can say is "this NEVER happens in this community." guess what? youre on TV because it DID, so NEVER isnt an option any longer.

newsbuggy read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 2:59 PM

Just one more thing Kelly-00, why does a person have to be an idiot if they don't carry a weapon around??? It's not some people's preference but that doesn't make them an idiot.

mcshakespeare read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 3:11 PM

Starrman-
I know you’re right about how it would be impossible to prosecute someone who didn’t assist a victim in some way. I really can see all the problems this could pose. Too many for words, I’m sure! It just seems so wrong sometimes, you know? You can be charged for aiding a criminal by providing them a place to stay, but there is nothing to be done to someone who watches a person get attacked or murdered and does absolutely nothing (not even call 911). It is just amazing. I wish we could rely on people’s common morality, but unfortunately we always can’t. I could understand someone being afraid. Like, they didn’t do anything because they were terrified. I still wouldn’t like that, but that is understandable. What I’m talking about are the people who just don’t care about others so it is nothing for them to watch someone else being abused. But you are right – how could you prove the difference between the two anyways?

Kelly-00 read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2007 | 3:51 PM

Starman, thats exactly what I was talking about.

Newsbuggy, its sad that you would divorce your supposid real man all because he took the children to safety. Now I get all of your biterness if thats the type of marriage you have. And once again, I never said that he would or would not actually do it. I just said that I would say it. Once again you jumped to your own sexist conclusions.
I don't want people to do for me. I do for myself. And when you live in an area like this (DC and MD and Northern VA) and you don't carry something to defend yourself with, then God help you. The bad ones carry weapons so how are you planning to defend yourself? Start yelling for your husband? Common sense newsbuggy

Page 1 of 3
1
Last


Write your comment below:




mcshakespeare

Female who enjoys giving her opinion and hearing what others have to say about various things. :)

Member Since: 10/12/2006