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I've got a good female friend who is a swimming coach for a Northern Virginia team.  She's also just had her second child.

Anyway, there was a sanctioned USA Swim event going on this past weekend, and my friend was breastfeeding her 4 month old daughter discreetly while she was on deck.  One of the other coaches complained and they tried to make her go to the bathroom to breastfeed?  WTF???  Do you eat in the bathroom?  I sure don't!

People need to take the sticks out of their butts!  The facility was the Freedom Center at GMU/Manassas.  I was under the impression that Virginia law dictates no nursing mother be denied the right to nurse her child at any state owned or state controlled facility.  Is that incorrect?

 

 

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Starrman read my blog view my photos
Nov 5, 2007 | 8:33 AM

I agree! If breast feeding was not as natural as breathing, then maybe a little concern. Although I was not there, I would be willing to bet the farm that the Mom did not stand up, whip down her top, expose herself, and announce what she was going to do.
What a bunch of Twits, no pun intended!

beagle_buddy read my blog view my photos
Nov 5, 2007 | 8:55 AM

look AH most if not all of us know a baby thrives on the lactated liquid from a mom's titt but every thing has it's place and a selfish, birdbrain mom should take into a little consideration the tastes, attitudes and practices of others around her ...

...of course this example may be dramatic but possible in the views you hold…imagine you're attending a social affair hosted by a neighbor in their home for friends and their families...a mom settles in on the sofa amidst the gathering, sets up shop and commences to breast feed ...a couple of kids congregate and ask, what ya doin' lady???...bout that time Johnny who's hormones are becomin' active tries every way to sam to see if he can get a gander at the mom's attributes meanwhile young Mary and Suzie grow a bit embarrassed wonderin’ about whether Johnny can remain in command of his fantasies or they're about to be groped so he can fulfill the moment’s experience knowing these girls have become physically developed and quite tasty lookin’ ...

...instead of puttin’ your judgement ahead of the views of others, even if it doesn’t offend you be big enough to give others some consideration... Dam my daughter breast feeds and the family and friends are aware of it but she prefers to have some privacy …we extend the use of one of the bedroms and they rejoin the family picnic, supper or what ever it may be, once my granddaughter’s appetite has been satisfied…

jdwalker read my blog
Nov 5, 2007 | 8:59 AM

Beagle_buddy, why do others get consideration, but my friend doesn't? Why does my friend have to choose between her job and nursing her baby? The person with the problem here is YOU, not me.

Y3Y3 read my blog view my photos
Nov 5, 2007 | 10:25 AM

Perhaps if she had NOT BEEN "ON DECK" at the time?? She needs to pick her priorities. Nose picking is natural too, but I don't wanna see it.

beagle_buddy read my blog view my photos
Nov 5, 2007 | 10:39 AM

"jd" you're like the occasional boil on the butt...it's a pain while it's there but thankfully it heals and goes away ...for starters why?...you're one the others are many, many more you selfish, unthinkin' knothead...

...there are those who enjoy nudity but choose the right forum to enjoy they're interests...I've never noticed a naked woman with nothin' but a bow tie on in the audience at the National Theater or seated in the hotel lobby readin' the newspaper...now we all know there are nudists in the community but they seem to recognize there's the right place and the right time to do their thing...

...why does this person get this and that person get that ...I don't know AH except that's the way the world is ...haven't you noticed??? "jd"...

jdwalker read my blog
Nov 5, 2007 | 11:09 AM

Virginia law clearly states that no nursing mom will be denied the right to nurse her child while on any state owned or state controlled property.

If other people have inappropriate reactions, it's THEIR problem. I'm a man, I like womens' breasts, but *I* don't gawk when a woman is breastfeeding....

The baby's gotta eat. The law's on my friend's side. Nuff said.

Y3Y3 read my blog view my photos
Nov 5, 2007 | 12:15 PM

WhereEVER she were to go in the Facility she COULD nurse her baby. She chose a stupid place.

mjb07
Nov 5, 2007 | 1:01 PM

JD, I'm with you 100%. I cannot believe that there are people who find it offensive for a baby to breastfeed. Also, I've never seen any mother who was not discreet while doing so. We need to get into the proper century.

caffeinated-cow read my blog
Nov 5, 2007 | 1:09 PM

The bathroom-hygiene thing has gotten me thinking....was/does your friend wash herself before breastfeeding her baby? If she does, was she able to adequately wash herself at the swim meet? I would think the baby has a greater chance of contracting something from a mother's less than hygienic skin than he would from being in a bathroom. I mean, you wouldn't eat off a plate that's been perspired upon by someone, why should any baby be subjected to something similar.

Also, if your friend believes she's been discriminated against, I suggest she file a complaint with the State's Attorney General's office.

beagle_buddy read my blog view my photos
Nov 5, 2007 | 2:04 PM

you're a man "jd"???? ...and you don't gawk!!!! ...I don't pass on many opportunities these days but even when I was younger I have to admit I probably wouldn't have then... just one of those phenomena of interest and lusts in life...would you immediately look away if a lady in your seating vicinity decided to get topless ???? …”jd” you raise more questions about yourself than are settled…

you idiot, from what you relate both of the event and the law I fail to see that the benefits of the law were denied ...she just didn't like being directed to the breast feeding suite ...

jdwalker read my blog
Nov 5, 2007 | 6:35 PM

There was no breast feeding suite, you idiot. Have you never been to the Freedom Center at GMU Manassas?

And plus, you obviously didn't read my profile...it reads Software Engineer and ARMY RESERVE SOLDIER. No, I'm not gay. I'm straight, but not narrow.

There's a big difference between a woman just deciding to whip her top off and a woman discreetly breastfeeding. You obviously have never seen a woman breastfeed before. They don't get topless.

beagle_buddy read my blog view my photos
Nov 5, 2007 | 9:47 PM

huge difference ...wow with your bio and a quarter it may get you a big gold star ...oh may I say I'm dazzled by the reserve status you mention ...why is beyond me, just thought I'd be nice in sayin' it ...oh and I almost forgot, a software engineer isn't that super ...I'm in awe

Y3Y3 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 7:59 AM

SOftware engineer=Installs patches on Microsoft Winders machines all day. BFD...

GrandmaM read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 10:48 AM

I had to wait a day or two and think this over before I responded. I believe that Americans have an unnatural breast fetish, and have perverted something natural into something nasty, something sexually exciting to our more unbalanced citizens.

Having said that, and having been a mother who breastfed, I also think that decent women who would never flash their naked breasts any other time don't make a freaking political statement when it's time to feed their babies. I wore appropriate clothing, including outsized cardigans,etc. and when I fed my babies, I found a quiet place where I could relax, and both of us could enjoy time by ourselves. That's how we bonded.

There is nothing wrong with breastfeeding, and there is nothing wrong with discretion and modesty, either. I agree about public bathrooms being unsanitary, and I agree that the feeding process should be as clean as possible. There are just times when a Mom has to think ahead and make a plan to ensure some privacy. It would be wonderful if public facilities could make a room for mothers available, with a sink and a few comfortable chairs.

jdwalker read my blog
Nov 6, 2007 | 11:10 AM

And my friend WAS being discreet, GrandmaM. She was, however, AT work. She's a swim coach. She was on the pool deck, but she was wearing a special nursing shirt. Most stuff is covered up. The most anyone would see is a half-second flash of BLEEP when little Arwen latches on or latches off.

Not to mention, at this SWIM MEET, you've got teenage girls in tight spandex racing swimsuits that don't leave ANYTHING to the imagination, and people are going to have a cow about discreet breastfeeding??? Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot, over?

jdwalker read my blog
Nov 6, 2007 | 11:11 AM

Oh, and my friend has since received a formal apology from the GMU/Manassas Freedom Center. They've educated the entire staff, and it won't happen again.

caffeinated-cow read my blog
Nov 6, 2007 | 11:25 AM

I agree with Grandma, a special room or designated area should be given for nursing mothers....but then you'll always will have someone who won't want to use it and will demand to breastfeed topless in the middle of the campus. But the more sane and dignified women would most likely use the nursing room.

She named her child after a character in the Lord of the Rings. Nice.

jdwalker read my blog
Nov 6, 2007 | 11:51 AM

My friend doesn't demand to breastfeed topless, and she really can't leave the pool deck in the middle of a meet...she's the team coach, for heaven's sake! She's discreet, and she's got a special shirt for that sort of thing.

And no. She's liked that name for a long time...she's into the old irish stuff like that. It had nothing to do with the Lord of the Rings.

GrandmaM read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 2:45 PM

jd, one other suggestion for her. Has she considered pumping ahead of time, and then freezing milk to use at times like this? If she's working, how is she paying attention to her job and to her baby at the same time? A babysitter or a friend at the meet could help her out using a bottle and stored milk.

And if I assumed too much about her exposure or modesty, I'm sorry. It's just that some workplaces will let a mom take a break to breastfeed, but I don't know of any which let a worker continue to work during breastfeeding.

beagle_buddy read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 5:57 PM

fantastic thoughts to "jd", "Grandma" ...this is the practice both our daughters used to manage having a life outside the confines of the home till our grandchildren were no longer nursing ...if our local daughter and the family were comming over to visit us for a while or even to make a shopping trip or visit with their friends she brought along stockpiled frozen mothers milk ...it offered her near normal freedom and enabled her to manage feeding times...

I don't think there's any question this discussion we've been making on this subject has created a picture to my satisfaction that this is really nothing more than clash of wills highlighting a mom that's within herself to far and indifferent to the world outside her orbit, even probably takes some pleasure in shovin' it in someone's face for reaction...

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