Patch_W_Adams's St Louis Blog

OK ..I have read the trascript from the Debate last night.  It is full of Marxist and Socialist concepts, but yet no one seems to care.  I care..so here is the Breakdown from both Canidates..I read the Transcript from this Link:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/07/presidential
.debate.transcript/

So...here we Go...

Obama in answering the First Question said this:

"It means that we are helping state and local governments set up road projects and bridge projects that keep people in their jobs."

So is he saying that when the economy tanks we are all going to be building Bridges for the State???  Please...I know he also mentioned the Bailout, a Huge Socialist endeavor...but that is an obvious one that both Mccain and Obama backed......anyway..lets continue.

Mccain in also answering the First Question said this:

"As president of the United States, Alan, I would order the secretary of the treasury to immediately buy up the bad home loan mortgages in America and renegotiate at the new value of those homes -- at the diminished value of those homes and let people be able to make those -- be able to make those payments and stay in their homes."

Now remember this is just after he said that Washington needs to get control of it's spending....I guess he didn't mean the Socialist Program that he suggested above. 

Obama in answering the Next question he said this:

"Sen. McCain is right that we've got to stabilize housing prices. But underlying that is loss of jobs and loss of income. That's something that the next treasury secretary is going to have to work on."

So the Treasury Secretary is going to be in charge of Creating Jobs and the Income of those Jobs???  Excuse Me?   Oh ..I forgot..we are all going to be working for the State building Bridges..

Mccain in answering the next question said this:

 "Well, thank you, Oliver, and that's an excellent question, because as you just described it, bailout, when I believe that it's rescue,"

Um..No Senator Mccain..it's a Bailout..a Socialist Bailout..ok he continued

"So this rescue package means that we will stabilize markets, we will shore up these institutions. But it's not enough. That's why we're going to have to go out into the housing market and we're going to have to buy up these bad loans and we're going to have to stabilize home values, and that way, Americans, like Alan, can realize the American dream and stay in their home."

So the Government Getting a Huge Chunk of the Private Sector isn't enough...we need to envolve Government in Everything even our Homes....Gee...  The American Dream is More Government Control????    That sounds like Free Market doesn't it??

Obama in answering the same question said this:

"This is not the end of the process; this is the beginning of the process. And that's why it's going to be so important for us to work with homeowners to make sure that they can stay in their homes.

The secretary already has the power to do that in the rescue package, but it hasn't been exercised yet. And the next president has to make sure that the next Treasury secretary is thinking about how to strengthen you as a home buyer, you as a homeowner, and not simply think about bailing out banks on Wall Street."

So he is saying the Government did Bailout Wall Street Banks, but it shouldn't stop at that.  The Government should do your thinking to strengthen you as a Home Buyer and Home Owner.  Nice......I am Glad he recognizes How Dumb we  all are....lol

Obama on the follow up of this same question said this:

"The problem is we still have a archaic, 20th-century regulatory system for 21st-century financial markets. We're going to have to coordinate with other countries to make sure that whatever actions we take work.

But most importantly, we're going to have to help ordinary families be able to stay in their homes, make sure that they can pay their bills, deal with critical issues like health care and energy, and we're going to have to change the culture in Washington so that lobbyists and special interests aren't driving the process and your voices aren't being drowned out."

OK so we need to make sure the Globalization is still on track and coordinate with other countries more Global regulations.....um..ok    And we have to make sure ordinary families will be able to stay in their homes...?? Who decides what is ordinary ? Government?  How is that Freedom when the Government ensures success from Banks to Main Street??  Please.....Marxism..   Heck, they ignored our voices when they voted for this Bailout..and listened to their special intrests..look at the Pork they put in there..and Obama and Mccain voted for it....

Mccain in responding to this said:

"I think it depends on what we do. I think if we act effectively, if we stabilize the housing market -- which I believe we can, if we go out and buy up these bad loans, so that people can have a new mortgage at the new value of their home --"

More "Government Can Fix Anything" Babble.......   Comrade..

Obama when  talking about History said this Confusing piece of information:

"But I think it's important just to remember a little bit of history. When George Bush came into office, we had surpluses. And now we have half-a-trillion-dollar deficit annually.

When George Bush came into office, our debt -- national debt was around $5 trillion. It's now over $10 trillion. We've almost doubled it."

OK....First he said we had a Surplus...when Bush came into office...then in the next sentence he said that we had a $5 Trillion Dollar National Debt when Bush came into office....??????????     If you have DEBT...HOW CAN YOU HAVE A SURPLUS????  If things are not Paid Off..then you don't have Extra Money.........

Obama a few questions later said this when talking about sacrafice:

"And so it's important to understand that the -- I think the American people are hungry for the kind of leadership that is going to tackle these problems not just in government, but outside of government."

That is a Hidden marxist babble for....The Government Wants to Run your Life..all of it!  He continues:

"But each and every one of us can start thinking about how can we save energy in our homes, in our buildings. And one of the things I want to do is make sure that we're providing incentives so that you can buy a fuel efficient car that's made right here in the United States of America, not in Japan or South Korea, making sure that you are able to weatherize your home or make your business more fuel efficient.

And that's going to require effort from each and every one of us.

And the last point I just want to make. I think the young people of America are especially interested in how they can serve, and that's one of the reasons why I'm interested in doubling the Peace Corps, making sure that we are creating a volunteer corps all across this country that can be involved in their community, involved in military service, so that military families and our troops are not the only ones bearing the burden of renewing America."

What he wants to say is that we are going to make you be energy effecient..no choice..no freedom in the matter.  Plus he wants to force companies to Build what the Government Dictates..as usual and where....  As far as the Volunteer thing goes...His Group in Chicago that he and His wife started a Chapter of...was a Marxist Organization that Brainwashed Kids......  That is the Volunteer Corps that he wants all across the Country...he wants to make sure we all bear a Burden...our choice or not.

He Continues into the Next question:

"And so part of the problem, I think, for a lot of people who are listening here tonight is they don't feel as if they are sharing the burden with other folks.

I mean, you know, it's tough to ask a teacher who's making $30,000 or $35,000 a year to tighten her belt when people who are making much more than her are living pretty high on the hog.

And that's why I think it's important for the president to set a tone that says all of us are going to contribute, all of us are going to make sacrifices, and it means that, yes, we may have to cut some spending, although I disagree with Sen. McCain about an across-the- board freeze.

That's an example of an unfair burden sharing. That's using a hatchet to cut the federal budget."

OK this Whole thing is about wealth redistribution.....from everyone... that is the  Burden... we all need to be Poor so we have to need the Government.......sad

More Obama on the class War:

"If you make less than a quarter of a million dollars a year, you will not see a single dime of your taxes go up. If you make $200,000 a year or less, your taxes will go down.

Now, Sen. McCain talks about small businesses. Only a few percent of small businesses make more than $250,000 a year. So the vast majority of small businesses would get a tax cut under my plan."

Ok so if the Government decides your Rich...we tax you more....so who decides who is "rich"?  Tax all equally..or none....that is Fair.....

 I hate to tell Obama that most of those Small Businesses that make more than $250,000 are Doctors, Dentists and Healthcare Professionals....and Guess who the tax increase is going to get passed to....You and me...that is Big Government, Class Warfare well thought out...Force Healthcare Costs up through the taxing of those Providing it...causing prices to rise...then use that as excuse to take over the Healthcare sector by the Government....Nice... Sneaky..

Mccain on the Environment said this:

"We can move forward, and clean up our climate, and develop green technologies, and alternate -- alternative energies for -- for hybrid, for hydrogen, for battery-powered cars, so that we can clean up our environment and at the same time get our economy going by creating millions of jobs."

It's nice to see that the Government is going to do all of this.....like everything else.  I guess the Free Market and the Cosumers mean nothing..anymore to anyone.

Obama on this issue said this:

"And it is absolutely critical that we understand this is not just a challenge, it's an opportunity, because if we create a new energy economy, we can create five million new jobs, easily, here in the United States.

It can be an engine that drives us into the future the same way the computer was the engine for economic growth over the last couple of decades.

And we can do it, but we're going to have to make an investment. The same way the computer was originally invented by a bunch of government scientists who were trying to figure out, for defense purposes, how to communicate, we've got to understand that this is a national security issue, as well."

Oh it's an opportunity to Grow Government....so Government Scientists can dictate to all of us what we want and what is Green..the investment is More of our Tax Dollars and the Loss of our Freedom of Choice.  On we Go....

Mccain on the follow up said this:

"I think pure research and development investment on the part of the United States government is certainly appropriate. I think once it gets into productive stages, that we ought to, obviously, turn it over to the private sector."

Yea Right John, just like the Government is Going to give up all the Shares in the Banks..that it has Bailed Out....Gee let me hold my Breath on that one....The only things that come out of the Government in Research and Development are New Weapons or a More Expensive Stamp.

Obama on Healthcare said this:

"So one of the things that I have said from the start of this campaign is that we have a moral commitment as well as an economic imperative to do something about the health care crisis that so many families are facing.

So here's what I would do. If you've got health care already, and probably the majority of you do, then you can keep your plan if you are satisfied with it. You can keep your choice of doctor. We're going to work with your employer to lower the cost of your premiums by up to $2,500 a year.

And we're going to do it by investing in prevention. We're going to do it by making sure that we use information technology so that medical records are actually on computers instead of you filling forms out in triplicate when you go to the hospital. That will reduce medical errors and reduce costs.

If you don't have health insurance, you're going to be able to buy the same kind of insurance that Sen. McCain and I enjoy as federal employees. Because there's a huge pool, we can drop the costs. And nobody will be excluded for pre-existing conditions, which is a huge problem."

So it's nice to see the Government is Going to Dictate Morals to me...I thought Republicans only did that.   So if most of us Have insurance like he said...then why screw it up?  And they are going to help us ...by making us do PREVENTION?   No more Cheeseburgers or Cigs...gee that is Freedom isn't it?   Instead of allowing people to buy Healthcare that the Politicians get...why not cut out Government Insurance?  And save the tax payers a ton of taxes so we can have more of OUR MONEY and Buy our OWN insurance??  Nah..too easy..  Oh yea ..he mentioned that Mandatory Health IT Plan that BUSH Signed in 2006 FORCING PRIVATE PRACTICE to Go ELECTRONIC in their RECORDS.  Also that Plan Gives GOVERNMENT access to ALL OF OUR MEDICAL RECORDS...WITHOUT A WARRENT.   Nice.....just something else he agrees with BUSH on.

Mccain said this on the same question:

"And we need to do all of the things that are necessary to make it more efficient. Let's put health records online, that will reduce medical errors, as they call them. Let's have community health centers. Let's have walk-in clinics. Let's do a lot of things to impose efficiencies."

This is refering to the Same BUSH executive order that was signed in 2006 that I described above... the Federal Health IT Plan.   This is right before he said that Government needs to stay out of Healthcare...but this BUSH Health IT Plan is Government Intervention!

Mccain Continues in the Follw up:

" I think it's a responsibility, in this respect, in that we should have available and affordable health care to every American citizen, to every family member. And with the plan that -- that I have, that will do that.

But government mandates I -- I'm always a little nervous about. But it is certainly my responsibility. It is certainly small-business people and others, and they understand that responsibility. American citizens understand that. Employers understand that."

Um..OK..I thought he just said before that Government should stay out...but it's HIS responsibility????    I wish he would make up his mind....

Obama said this:

"Well, I think it should be a right for every American. In a country as wealthy as ours, for us to have people who are going bankrupt because they can't pay their medical bills"

Excuse me??? I missed that part in the Constitution....Life, Liberty, Pursuit of happiness...and Health????   Um..No My Marxist Comrade...Not there.

Obama Continues:

"Number one, let me just repeat, if you've got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I'm going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You'll still have choice of doctor. There's no mandate involved."

Yea you can keep your Doctor, Insurance..but not that Cheeseburger, Cig or anything else the Government decides is unhealthy in His Mandatory Prevention Plan .......Please

On we Go with Obama he also said:

"Now, it's true that I say that you are going to have to make sure that your child has health care, because children are relatively cheap to insure"

Nice...So if they were expensive..Sorry....but that is besides the Point...let me KEEP more of MY money..and I can ensure MY CHILD!    Why is that Soo hard to understand?

OK more Obama on Healthcare:

"And the reason that it's a problem to go shopping state by state, you know what insurance companies will do? They will find a state -- maybe Arizona, maybe another state -- where there are no requirements for you to get cancer screenings, where there are no requirements for you to have to get pre-existing conditions, and they will all set up shop there.

That's how in banking it works. Everybody goes to Delaware, because they've got very -- pretty loose laws when it comes to things like credit cards.

And in that situation, what happens is, is that the protections you have, the consumer protections that you need, you're not going to have available to you."

OK here is where the States rights issue comes in...... he wants to take away the State's rights to regulate Insurance...and the Banks it appears.  He believes the Fed should Control All.....with Him at the Helm.... COMRADE!  THE GOVERNMENT CAN PROTECT YOU!  Gee who needs the Constitution..he can fix everything...

OK I am Skipping the Foreign Policy...Too much on this Blog already..Now for their Closing Remarks...

Obama Said this in his closing Remarks:

"But here's what I do know. I know that I wouldn't be standing here if it weren't for the fact that this country gave me opportunity. I came from very modest means. I had a single mom and my grandparents raised me and it was because of the help of scholarships and my grandmother scrimping on things that she might have wanted to purchase and my mom, at one point, getting food stamps in order for us to put food on the table.

Despite all that, I was able to go to the best schools on earth and I was able to succeed in a way that I could not have succeeded anywhere else in this country.

The same is true for Michelle and I'm sure the same is true for a lot of you.

And the question in this election is: are we going to pass on that same American dream to the next generation? Over the last eight years, we've seen that dream diminish."

OK, he is telling us that with a "Little" Government help that he made it.  But he has been telling us that Little Help isn't enough for you and me..becasue we can't do it like he did...without MORE Government help..I'm Sorry  that is Garbage.  If he can..then why can't I???   Hypocrate...power Hungry Hypocrate.  Yea let's not pass on the American Dream of Freedom and Liberty...Let's Pass on the Marxist Dream of Government Mandated Economic Equality..and Misery!!!!    Twit....

Obama continues:

"We need fundamental change. That's what's at stake in this election. That's the reason I decided to run for president, and I'm hopeful that all of you are prepared to continue this extraordinary journey that we call America."

Yea Lets change the Fundamentals of Freedom and Liberty for all and Give it all To the Government!!!   Thanks for Running Comrade!   Destroy America From within!!!   What a journey!

Here are some of  Mccain's Closing remarks:

"The challenges that we face are unprecedented. Americans are hurting tonight in a way they have not in our generation.

There are challenges around the world that are new and different and there will be different -- we will be talking about countries sometime in the future that we hardly know where they are on the map, some Americans."

Yea John, but I guess unlike Past "Great" Generations we Need MORE GOVERNMENT Bailouts!   The Countries we are going to hear about are the ones that Join this Great One World Government that all you Politicians want..but first you guys have to destroy Liberty and Freedom...so we Fall in Line with the Propaganda!

Sad...we have a couple of Socialist running for President!    

I think Mickey Mouse could do better!   Oh wait...then we would have to listen to It's a Small world everytime he came out  for a Press Conference!