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by BigSmooov from NE Washington DC

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Recently, Rhee fired 24 principals and 22 assistant pricipals.   Teachers are gettting thier pink slips also. 

Close your eyes.  You are an excellent educator.  Taught by the best schools.  You took on the challenge of teaching in an inner city school because you are confident in what your abilities are and feel you can make a difference.  You have a classroom full of underperforming kids.  For two years in a row, your kids failded to meet the federal standard set by "No Child Left Behind."  You are fired because of this. 

Is this really fair to the teachers or the principals?  Should they be fired for the kids lack of focus?  Is the blame being shifted in the wrong direction?  Well, Bush's "No Child Left Behind" act says it is.  Sen. John McSAME thinks so also. 

Would you fire good teachers and principals because the kids don't care? 

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RED-DOG1 read my blog view my photos
Jun 19, 2008 | 5:50 PM

A teacher is there to MOTIVATE and educate. Obviously if your students are not learning anything your not really a good teacher are you?
I think if a teacher can't get theirs students to want to learn than... they can't teach AND SHOULD BE FIRED.
Have you read the Federal standards requirements?? A monkey can pass them..
If you can't teach the BASIC requirements to your students I say out you go!

priveye
Jun 19, 2008 | 8:06 PM

Smoovie...good teachers can get a job any where....on the other hand...slugs have always gravitated to the District.

Starrman1 read my blog view my photos
Jun 19, 2008 | 8:12 PM

priveye, teue, oh so very true!

Starrman1 read my blog view my photos
Jun 19, 2008 | 8:13 PM

ooops, true, oh so very true!

Sorry looonnnngggg day.

Y3Y3 read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 8:00 AM

RedDog1 You are absolutely correct. I wonder why the OP didn't understand this?

GrandmaM read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 9:27 AM

BigSmooov, it's never fair when excellent people are fired. But "fair" doesn't have much to do with this, any more than it applies in big business. Most boards of education are following business models now, and what matter to the administrators are quantifiable results.
DC's results have not been up to the standards.

Ms. Rhee may regret firing some of her teachers eventually. New hires should understand that a resume which looks great on paper won't get them anywhere unless they can make the kids care.

Unless Mom and/or Dad in DC wake up and start parenting, none of these changes will matter. I believe you are in the minority when it comes to good parenting in DC, and I say that from the perspective of someone who has tutored in DC for a long time.

Unfortunately, Mom can't be fired and so it goes on and on and on.

beagle_buddy read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 9:39 AM

...can't put it any better than Dog has Smooov ...just for the sake of it Smooov, is there something you know about the deserving qualities these personnel we don't know of?

BigSmooov read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 10:04 AM

Don't get me wrong. I'm with Red_Dog1 on his opinion.

Let us be real here though. I'm speaking from a person that tutored for 3 years (so far) in an after school program for DC/VA kids. I've met some great teachers. Unfortunatly, they feel as if their hands are tied when it comes to educating in certain counties. My friend "Mrs. Ross" taught in DC schools for two years. I would question her teaching methods because she would always complain to us about how her students were falling behind because she would have to waste time trying to settle down these middle school students to get the lesson across to them. It really got on her nerves when she was teaching algebra she would literally have to back track to teach the kids basic math (they should've been taught in the elementary level) in order to bring them up to par with the algebra lesson. Last year, she "finally" recieved her certification to teach in the Prince William County area (where she lives) so she doesn't have to commute as far. BIG DIFFERENCE! Kids will be kids of course. She still has to settle the kids down at the beginning of class...but once the lesson gets rolling...the kids are on the ball! So it wasn't how she was reaching out to the kids, it was the area!

So my question is, should good teachers like her be blamed?

caffeinated-cow read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 10:14 AM

Parents are to blame as well, Smoov. But as Grandma said, you can't fired Mom (or Dad---if he's in the picture.)

Y3Y3 read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 10:17 AM

The schools are supposed to have help in the teaching process FROM THE PARENT(s). where is that? PARENTS FAULT!!! The administrators, and teachers haven't made a dent in the attitudes either. Why is is ONLY the DC kids that are having such problems though? How poorly do the black kids in Montgomery county, and PG county compare?

BigSmooov read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 10:28 AM

Actually Y3Y3...PG County children are falling behind everyone. DC children scores are really improving compared to last year. If you read an article that was in the Washington Post last week about how Benning Elementary is closing eventhough their scores are increased you would have a better idea. DC has more educational options as PG though.

Montgomery Co black students are (as a whole) are not struggling as much but a report in the post showed less and less are enrolling in the advance classes. That statistics is the same all around for all the races. Just more with black children.

MsColleen
Jun 20, 2008 | 11:38 AM

What constitutes good teachers? Because you receive a teaching certification does not make for a qualified teacher. When my daughter entered 1st grade ,this was in Georgia many years ago I was amazed at her teacher's grammar. She was saying things like " cut the lights" instead of turn off the lights. She was cetified and was given this free pass due to affirmative action. After many complaints to the school board she was reassigned to another district...to become someone else's problem. Parents need to be active...not all teachers are good ones just because they have a certificate/degree.

MsColleen
Jun 20, 2008 | 11:39 AM

Correction: certified

AveMaria22 read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 12:08 PM

I believe the education process itself is seriously flawed and obsolete, to include the curriculum, teachers approach to teaching, parental involvement, and distractions such as TV and the computer itself. In Fairfax County the school board insists that there is ONE method of teaching kids to write..the "plan", draft, the hook sentence must be the first or second sentence in the first paragraph, three sentences that explain the content...and so on. There is no recognition that there are children who are not talented writers, but those same children may be history geniuses or mathematical prodigies...and each praised and encouraged for their abilities. Each and every child DOES HAVE talents wherein they naturally excel. Teachers are forced to teach to pass tests and only pass tests...kids are not robots...and we wonder why they are dropping out of school right and left.

BigSmooov read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 12:13 PM

MsColleen I understand at that grade level (1st grade) speaking in proper english at all times is very essential in the development of a child's grammer. Now from what you are telling me, your issue with this one particular teacher is going far beyond just her choice of grammer. Do not blame the whole affirmative action program on the action's of one individual. We can go back in time pre and post affirmative action to the white individuals that got preferential treatment based on family and friend affiliations that put them in positions that they were not fully equiped to handle. In this case, we are talking in terms of individuals.

The question you are posing can go both ways. For instance, is this person a bad teacher because the students are failing? That's the questions I'm asking here.

The bottom line is an "active parent." It doesn't matter what school a child attends, dicipline and structure is the same all across the board.

caffeinated-cow read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 12:20 PM

AveMaria I agree with you that the educational system is seriously flawed. The main problem is that the system is designed to squash independent thinking and self-study.

BigSmooov read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 12:24 PM

AveMaria22...you are totally on point with what I'm talking about here. There are children falling behind academically and being pushed along so that teachers don't get fired.

There are students in different counties ALL OVER that are getting "inflated grades." There are some school teachers that opted to using a percentage system for their students. For instance, if you have one child in class that made an "A" and the 2nd made a "F," the class precentile will boast that "F" into a "C." Meanwhile this "F" student will go to the next grade and fall behind.

Much too much time is being put on just passing this test. All the others lessons that these children should have more focus on do not get as much time as it should.

AveMaria22 read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 12:25 PM

When my son was in the 8th grade we removed him from the insanity of Fairfax's public school system and entered him into the world of homeschooling mixed with classes purchased thru and monitored by universities. My confused and failing (in math) son was tested at the end of his senior homeschooled year by his university and scored so high that he was recommened for all honors classes. He currently has a 4.0 average and is an Architectural major...with eyes on engineering as well. We made certain that, for instance, when he learned about the civil war, we read about Andersonville and went to the site, walked it off and talked about Miracle Springs, the crumbling escape tunnels, the stories of the men inside the horrible prison and the residents of the community outside that prison. We read and walked battlefields locally and in Pennsylvania...we walked the sites and relived the battles. His history grades were perfect scores. We approached writing from a different slant. I scrapped the rote method of Fairfax County and simply turned him loose to tell me a story...a creative made up ANYTHING he wanted to tell me. It was fun, it was awful...but something happened...he's a wonderful writer whose only problem lies in spelling...the public school just grades kids down so badly that the "story and creativity" of the child are lost. Teachers should be turned loose from the "teach to tests only" thinking...and it is not their fault...it is a nationwide view of education that is flawed that loses our kids to TV and computer gaming. Life is exciting and wonderful ...that is the

AveMaria22 read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 12:26 PM

....gift we must give our kids if we want them to learn and compete in a world society.

AveMaria22 read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 12:38 PM

And one more thing...I believe too much emphasis is placed on blaming kids for their language skills...I am from the deep south and when I hear a child say, for instance, "My friend is hiding in back of the tree."....I know that I need extra time to translate that sentence in MY mind to, "My friend is hiding behind the tree." My way is grammatically correct, however, I must recognize that we all use patterns of speech used by our parents and communities...and, regardless, we are saying the same thing. Allow our children to learn from THEIR minds and hearts with gentle guidance...and his/her "southern" speech patterns are part of him/her. We sweat the small stuff too much.

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